Laurier BBA is like 90-95. So, I'm basically hesitating between Waterloo CS vs. Additionally, many companies will focus purely on waterloo when it comes to hiring fall and winter interns making it much easier to get into a top internship program. 3. it is ran by Jeff Avery, and will go by the course code CS 346 starting Fall 2022. The OUAC will send your application information to each Ontario university you apply to. I joined by emailing the prof and having him waive the missing prereqs. U of T CE. If you're looking at the waterloo side you pretty much need a 95+ average, since this is even more competitive than CS, (I think i read somewhere for my year, around 5000 people applied and only 50-100 were accepted). Business Administration/Computer Science double degree. deferred from UTSG CS to math and physical science. , a 91 is a 91, a 99 is a 99, they don’t convert them to 4. Though it's better to be safe than sorry so if you can't really predict what will happen. Purdue if costs are similar. Average Canadian Coop Earnings (2021) 18 votes, 41 comments. Unofficial student and alumni-run subreddit for the University of Waterloo community. Additional Notes. Last 2 were found externally, the last being a FAANG. WaterlooWorks Megathread (Fall 2023) WaterlooWorks Megathread. The salary list and blacklist have been moved to Google Sheets in order to make this thread easier to browse. r/uwaterloo. First 3 were found through WW. Usually people apply during first year, but basically waterloo has correction factors for eng and use something else for cs but they definitely correct. Mostly the co-op program, if anything. for that loo is much better. 2024 ccc senior: 62 (qualified for CCO) took the AMC from 2021-2023 and qualified for the AIME in 2023. I’ve heard that 231 is designed to be more suitable for people who have taken 116, and generally easier to some extent compared to 136. Nothing. There are a couple of ways you can get a full-time academic research opportunity. This thread is for students applying to Winter 2023 co-ops during the Fall 2022 term. Doing a round of transfer applications to US schools just for fun but wondering what to apply to. Share. You can do this at either Waterloo or Toronto, but you have to resist the siren song of highly paid co-ops in industry, which won't help much with grad school. In the 'Future' section, there are statistics for full-time compensation. applied math, pure math). Unless you are top 10 percent of the class, you gotta be delusional to think that you are hot shit. ADMIN MOD. Should I be trying to get the most out of my degree by using my electives towards cs/math courses? If I only use electives for cs/math courses, my 3A term would look something like: CS341, CS350, CS348/349, MATH237, ARBUS101. Not many people go to Europe or Asia, however I do know at least 2 people who did – keep in mind those countries will pay on average much less than Canadian jobs. However at this point I still have quite a few CS courses I still need to take. Pros for Waterloo: It’s the better program, Co-Op especially seems to be better. Nothing special beyond first year in terms of curriculum. You may know all of this already, but some of the same things as applying to a job will apply to looking to be a URA: - Try to establish some sort of connection New York and Seattle are also quite popular. CS488 - Intro to Computer Graphics. The first computer we acquired, an IBM 610, was purchased for student use in 1960. UofT & Waterloo were by the largest CS averaging 500+ students/year for the past 5 years. 66. Pros: Co-op. When I started uni (not at UW, mind you), I was insistent in doing 4 years, only to take 6 years to do my degree. You can: Do a part-time or volunteer URA with a professor, and try to get an offer for a full-time URA. Western CS. I hope I can go to one of the top-tier American engineering graduate schools like MIT/Stanford/Berkeley after my Bachelor's because I want to become a professor. So far the CS courses I plan to take for my 3rd and 4th years are: CS341 - Algorithms. York Schulich (no coop) The deferred programs like Waterloo Math or UTSG math. *English and Econ were a 5 in the last term before apps. It definitely is possible. Currently i am a bit inclined towards u of t because of the rankings and the city. but many people change their mind and go into industry instead. I think the average for waterloo CS used to be like 96-97, but I'm pretty sure it's come down a bit. Nonetheless you can still find some ppl with very good research experiences and went to top US grad schools, but I wouldn't call it a lot. At the end of the day, NUS mostly look at CAP in They're both excellent schools and you won't go wrong with either. Second, with a good budget and financial planning, paying back a loan for postsecondary is completely manageable, lots of people do it. CS350 - Operating Systems. 94 avg grade 11 got in on January, gr 12 midterm avg of 96. 3x Applicants is gonna really high averages. The school tends to attract bright students, but mostly lets them down unless they transfer out of CS after first year. Waterloo is definitely the most recruited Canadian school from Silicon Valley but I'm surprised you say "by far" when even on the rankings you posted UofT sits #20. The (advanced) first year CS courses are less corrupt than other schools in Canada. No. it actually doesn’t matter since Waterloo CS tends to send out offers late. This thread is for students applying to Spring 2023 co-ops during the Winter 2023 term. Computer Engineering. In Waterloo, I will need to pay around $67,000 every year plainly for their tuition. (CAD80k job for Waterloo new grad is considered pretty low in terms of compensation Mar 19, 2022 · This makes the average acceptance rate only 4. I have a career fair coming next week, but overall I am starting to feel discouraged. Question is, I have heard some people in the last years in a similar situation say that they e-mailed them and that resulted in them almost like What US schools are actually worth it over Waterloo cs (w coop) Admissions. 2023 COMC: 70/80 (qualified for CMO) 2024 euclid: 85. 7 GPA. You would be competing with incoming high school students AND other transfer applicants. CS370 - Numerical Computation. r/ApplyingToCollege is the premier forum for college admissions questions, advice, and… Hi, I am currently in grade 12 and would like to go to Waterloo for computer science. Waterloo CE vs. I have an offer from u of t and Waterloo. By the 1980s, the University of Waterloo was producing roughly I an undergrad UofT CS student and intend to apply to Waterloo CS masters but don't really communicate with profs too much (as in not tight with them or anything). Personally I have a 95 going into grade 12 and I have no expectations of getting into Waterloo CS. Waterloo strictly speaking, UofT is quite a bit better than waterloo for grad school. 4. So right now I'm just coming up with my list. Here's the headcount of first year CS students over the years (dark grey indicates coop students) 97 is certainly a good shot at CS coop. since you’re applying to Computer Science, you will have to fill out the AIF (Admission Information Form). I'm an international student without the PR, so the tuitions are all similar. At the end of grade 12, I got the following grades: Computer Science HL - 7. Waterloo though will be sending out decisions late march and mid-may, and since they don't have an early admissions / decisions type thing, it will probably be completely random like a 50/50. people used to pick laurier as their home school to slide into waterloo CS, but you probably can't do that any more. 6. Graduate with up to 2 years of paid work experience. its basically the same thing as CS CS135/136: the bare-bone basics and the first CS courses you'll learn. A subreddit for everything related to Universities in Ontario, Canada. I've applied to pretty much all the cs programs except for waterloo and uoft main campus, but I'm wondering if I should apply to waterloo math as well. Currently, we have around 30 or less people in my year for CS/BBA for the waterloo side. I have 3 solid CS projects on my UBC would offer me $80,000 scholarship over the four years of studies ($20,000 renewable per year). First term I made the mistake of applying to 12 jobs and getting 9 interviews. I am really confuses as to where I should go. Just be aware that if you apply to 50 and get a dozen interviews, you have to go to them all. This guy scrolls through the Waterloo SE 2021 class profile. Geomatics. I'm not one of those people who think that most CS grads will be making 150k out of university, but you don't need to make that much to pay back a loan. Had a lot of friends in CS 1st/2nd year secure top coops with 60-low 70's. I'm an incoming CS 398 (soon to be CS 346) - App Development - this is a brand new course and a new hidden grail right now. Sep 20, 2023 · The OUAC application deadline for Waterloo Computer Science is February 1, 2023 . I already took discrete, Intro to CS, data structures and algorithms , object oriented design, I know Python, C and Java. r/OntarioUniversities. If you can I heard you should do CS at UofT if you want grad school, or do CS at UW if you want industry as UofT is a better research school but UW I has a CS average of 91 and got in, my friends had CS averages of 85 and 87, and didn't get in, so I assume the average to get in was around high 80s. The overall vibe at uwaterloo cs is career oriented, i. Ezpz just say you really want it. This one is completely separate but Id never really given any thought about going into CS before and as grade 12 started I began looking at programs and felt id be more We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. Waterloo CS Acceptance Averages 2021. People and the internet have told me it is practically impossible to get accepted for comp sci or any type of engineering. But you have two years to catch up. For the grad program this is different, where UofT does have many leading professors in the field. This Application Prep guide is fully updated with the 2023/2024 Waterloo AIF (i. A couple of my friends make around the same amount, but had 3. waterloo cs: i like how it seems like a safer option, and people go to co-op make a lot of money after graduation. Laurier BBA or Laurier DD CS/BBA (Laurier only) Carleton CS. WaterlooWorks Spring 2023 Megathread. This is strictly CS Degree graduates or Computing for a university like Queens. I came from 0 coding experience and 1B and 2A were quite painful. plus you have to write their math and code test/competitions. Am I making the right decision and could someone please walk me through the pros and cons of both? Posted by u/funkymonkey998 - No votes and 2 comments r/uwaterloo. Honestly Waterloo tech is not that good. So is there any difference in going to the more competitive schools (eg. But here are a few general tips for this sort of stuff. For research, UofT CS is highly ranked tho idk what number. Earn a degree in Computer Science from one of the world's top computer science schools. It is doable with a 5 figure salary too, and many people 11 votes, 18 comments. Another couple of my friends with 3. Not everyone accepts their offer, so universities send out more offers than spots. As the eldest child in an immigrant family, I didn't have many people I could ask for advice regarding university and the application process. I enjoyed this course but didn’t have much to take away from it in terms of application. Radiant_Humor_6618 • 1 yr. There isn't really a way to "do well". Hi, I'm a grade 12 student in Ontario and I'm hoping someone can answer my questions about waterloo's planning program and/or give me some advice. true. however, if i were you, i wouldn’t apply so early. 5 to 3. If your goal is to work in the USA --> UMich. deferred Laurier UW DD (both sides) So far I have these schools left. ffrosteh. So it kind of works like a hierarchy: California/NYC/Seattle > Canada > everywhere else. It was the largest and most powerful computer in Canada at the time and was housed in the famous Red Room. Software Engineering. 98 cumulative UW GPA and 35 ACT, and I got accepted to CS and Mechatronics in February. g. It's pretty much listing off your extra-curricular activities and the opportunity to list any extenuating circumstances as to why your marks may be low (if that applies to you and if you have any). Hi, I'm currently a gr12 high school student who has gotten into both utsg cs and utm cs and is still waiting on waterloo cs. Admission at Waterloo is largely stats based so having good numbers helps. They said you need an average in the high 90s to get considered. Revolutionary_Bug909. We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. If you can get 60% at Waterloo or UofT's engineering, you can easily get 90% at other universities' engineering, including McMaster's engineering because their courses are so much easier than Waterloo and UofT's engineering. Waitlisted Queen Commerce. The side you get into, determines which uni residence you belong to. Math AA HL - 6. That said, I know folks in CS non-co-op who are doing pretty well (though I think they normally want to do research?). this is because they changed it so it is now difficult to drop from laurier side cs/bba to only cs, but you can do so with the waterloo side. Thanks. Apply to both, laurier side is the easiest and waterloo side is the hardest. Waterloo is as good, if not better than all of the top CS state schools when it comes to placing students at top companies. I did see from other posts/comments on here that 231 got more complicated in the second half of the course I didn't do CS but I can make a comment (or many, many comments) on the teaching option, as a graduate. You don't get admitted to it first year, you have to apply to the program during your second year (this is the same case for many of the Math major programs, e. In most first year math and cs classes, the average hovers somewhere around 65-70. Thing is each term you learn more about how you study and work best and as long and you keep up with things it’s completely manageable to pass your courses. This does not include SE, Math or any other Engineering graduates or field. So if I chose to transfer to Waterloo, I would only get the first $20,000, which was equivalent to half of my first-year tuition in ubc. Sep 2, 2023 · If you’re looking for Waterloo Applicant Information Form (AIF) questions, examples, and prep tips, then you’ve come to the right place. There is no 4. Strictly speaking, undergrad CS at Waterloo and UofT are roughly the same in terms of education. We get a “buff” of +10 to our average compared to the average ontario student as the average correction factor is -14 for ontario students and we only get -4 so yes your 85 average is seen Calc is on the lower side but you have a 96 in English where most people will have 93ish. this is where you include any and all information about yourself, including your EC’s. I have been applying online to about 50 companies already but I dont have a single interview lined up. If you want to prep for UW CS, do as many computing contests as you can and work hard in your functions class in grade 11 (every math course you take will build on each other so you need to have a good foundation to do well in grade 12) We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. I'm around a mid 90s student, I got a 94% avg in grade 11 and I'm aiming to be around the same or possibly higher but I feel like my EC's aren't that strong for Waterloo CS. In your transcript all your original grades are kept. I'm currently leaning towards utsg cs as I'll be able to commute there and won't have to live on res. one thing I'm hoping to answer any questions y'all might have regarding university, applications, Waterloo, or CS programs in general. i have a lot of close family friends who went this pathway, working at fang now. Mid 90s (higher if possible) and some 64 votes, 44 comments. I’d pick Purdue. Hi folks! Can you recommend what extraculliculum activities, courses, clubs etc I should take to enhance my application for CS… CS itself contains about 350 people per year (I believe the target number is 345) but there are a bunch of auxiliary programs as well (CS/BBA double degree targets about 50 at Laurier and 50 at Waterloo, SE ~120, CFM ~40 etc) which you could consider part of CS. The average goes down not because students are less bright, but because university courses are fucking hard. Computing and Financial Management. But Waterloo has a pretty well regarded name and network in the Bay Area & Seattle. It is quite hard. 0. There is a list of approved modules you can map back to NUS, anything else you need to try (50% of module content must be similar to NUS to be mappable iirc) I got accepted in 19/20 but COVID happened. So I did 5 internships. once you submit this form, you cannot make any changes. r/ApplyingToCollege is the premier forum for college admissions questions, advice, and… . Be sure to apply by our application deadline (February 1 for most programs). 2. My dad’s Waterloo alumni, if that counts for Many people on Reddit seem to agree that future careers in tech is mainly dependent on the individual’s level of skill and that the education/opportunities at all the Ontario universities for CS are pretty much equal, so employers treat them all the same. In 1966, we bought an IBM 360/75 for $3 million more than the cost of the entire MC building. Just don’t fail and remember you just need your degree as a vehicle to land more successful opportunities. When I was applying I met with one of the people involved in the coursework program and was told that they place a lot of weight on strong reference letters. Reply More replies. I know 5 non-math units are required to graduate, but you can also take more non-math courses using your elective units. 1M subscribers in the ApplyingToCollege community. A big part of that was my average. AskEngineers is a forum for questions about the technologies, standards, and processes used to design & build these systems, as well as for questions about the engineering profession and its many disciplines. Physics HL - 6. Btw I also have like a 97 average top 6 and it is so stressful waiting. Waterloo CS and SEng are super competitive and you just got hope unless you have straight-up god-tier ecs it is just a waiting game. Cons: Comparing yourself to others. vs3001. • 2 yr. Roughly 30~50% of first year students without apttitude fail. WaterlooWorks Megathread. UBC and McGill are also decent CS schools in Canada as well. I know the acceptance rate is pretty good, but this year I feel like more students applied to this program and the marks are higher than ever. Hi, Just wondering how many students normally apply to the SYDE program at Waterloo because I heard that they're accepting only 100 applicants this year. I had a competitive app but I already knew it was a coinflip for UW CS however getting deferred to Geomatics is absolutely hilarious. Industry wise, UofT isn’t T20 but Waterloo is. So I was binge-watching some SE videos on YouTube, and I came across one called "Waterloo Software Engineering STRIKES AGAIN! | 2021 Class Profile Review". CS343 - Concurrent and Parallel Programming. (I've TA'd this course and have seen it firsthand) CS 240: I might be confusing it with 241 but they're both requried courses. Both are fine schools but the UMich brand has more traction in certain I would still take Waterloo because it has a much better reputation in the tech industry. They have made it more competitive this year (you can't just get an 80 and get in). Reply. But I'm also graduating, and I don't remember how people like back in first year cuz I didn't talk to many people in first year. pros: co-op. I transferred from first year McMaster CS to Waterloo CS in 2020. I have a friend who is actually in Waterloo Math and says that if you want to transfer to CS it is extremely competitive. I had a 3. U of t vs Waterloo (CS) Admissions. 136 is considered the first weedout course. Pros for McMaster: I’m from Hamilton, I would be able to live at home, rather than going to a residence. By that I mean everyone who gets admitted to CS (coop or non-coop) is eligible to take CS co-op. most ppl care more co-ops than their grades. laurier side is easier to get in, but you will not have waterloo coop. Some years it goes up a bit, but if it goes up, you'll also need a higher average to successfully transfer. Don't sweat it. If you plan to be a full-time student, you'll apply to Waterloo through the Ontario Universities' Application Centre (OUAC). Full-time studies. Cold apply to open positions, such as the Award. CS349 - User Interfaces. this is to my knowledge, the only other group project based CS course that Waterloo offers, and it lives up to the hype. Also your perception of UWaterloo having low rankings is not very accurate. Also to anyone in the program, how strong were If you do well in first year (>90%) you can apply to join co-op if you want. This thread is for students applying to Fall 2023 co-ops during the Spring 2023 term. At graduation, the experiences people get from doing coop at Waterloo will be a lot more helpful for career growth than doing part time at Shopify for 4 years. Shitpost. You must apply in spring after taking CS 245 and CS 246, and their's only 15 spots open per year. If it did tho, Waterloo's percent would be even higher compared to the rest. ~97% average with some significant leadership roles, tons of volunteer experience, 2 part-time jobs, been coding for 3 years; Python, Java, C++, and did all coding and math contests (scored decently on some math contests) — no offer yet (CS offers come in May) Don’t worry about it too much, you’re just grade 10. In this guide, we’ll go through each section of the Waterloo AIF and provide templates/examples so you can ace the Waterloo AIF. Grades don’t matter too much for a real job. Salaries + Blacklist Spreadsheet. you can always apply You don't need to graduate in 4 years, as you want to utilize co-op. 4x) was the minimum out of the batch of us that got in. But some people have to apply to 20 jobs to get 3 or 4. Apparently EC's matter a lot so hopefully u have good EC's. •. 1. Award. Laurier side is less competitive. If the work is mind-numbingly easy, a high average should be attainable. 2023 CSMC: 49. I’m considering both schools. Math to CS is very very difficult. I got to do multiple co-op terms, most of which were when classes were online (meaning I avoided those, as they sucked) and got to go on exchange. Engineers apply the knowledge of math & science to design and manufacture maintainable systems used to solve specific problems. I also took CS3FP3 (Third year functional programming. In 2015 there were 4,500 applicants, its probably close to 13,000 applicants this year. Doesn't matter. I didn't apply to waterloo cs because I don't have a considerable amount of ecs, haven't done any contests yet (but I'm planning to do the upcoming euclid), and compared to others, my average We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. U of T and Waterloo both deferred me to alternate majors with these grades. This specifically applies to CS as so many people want to transfer to CS. Waterloo Cs = Geomatics. [deleted] •. It's not like either university has some secret sauce in terms of professors or resources and both are seen roughly equally in terms of prestige. MembersOnline. Imo SFU CS would be better especially if you’re wanting to become a software developer. Math135 – 7/10 - Fall 2020 Online (in person lectures) Most of the people I’ve talked to who took this course didn’t enjoy it or just straight up despise it. i dont think either school would close any doors for you if ur competent and diligent. for applicants planning on starting their program in Fall 2024). I do realize this is another one of those annoying posts but I was wondering what peoples averages and ECs were who got admitted into CS at Waterloo last year. petunia844. ago. Each have their pros. For example, people say Cornell is great and elite but they probably won't choose it over uw cs. I think my grade 10 average was around 93-94 (2019-2020). its usually recommended to apply to the side you are more interested in, for example, if you like cs more, apply to waterloo, more business, apply laurier side. Patient_Status1190. I didn't do an undergrad here (nor even in this country), so I may not be able to provide very specific advice to the UofLoo. i've done a few hackathons and have a little bit of programming experience (i'm generally passionate about it, not crazy passionate though). . Title. If your goal is to work in Canada --> Waterloo (but UMich should also be fine) If your goal is to work in the Europe --> Either (but edge to Umich) If your goal is to be in Asia --> UMich by far. Predicted average for midterms if I'm being realistic will be 94-95 but I'm worried this is on the lower half of the scale. But the effort and quality of teaching in this course are great. I got into Laurier BBA (not DD) on January 11 with my grade 11 average which was about 93%. cons: this university sucks, you won’t get a traditional uni experience, friendships are hard to maintain because you move every 4 months, there is a constant pressure (whether or not you choose to succumb to it is up to you) to be grinding side projects & leetcode, most people i I'd pick Waterloo. According to the conversion table, this is a between a 93% and 96% average. Be warned, if you get into the laurier side, you don't have the exclusive waterloo coop job board. Also, if you apply just on WaterlooWorks American citizenship won’t help that much but outside of WaterlooWorks it definitely does. Projects and leetcode matter more. 6 internships + amazing outcomes (just look at how many students place in the Valley, nyc etc and these are canadians so as a citizen you have even greater chances) easily would say Waterloo is a t5 cs program if youre focused on industry. E. i also did a whole lotta other contests but not that significant. In North America, I'd say Waterloo is top 12 (better than schools like UMich and GTech but worse than CMU and Princeton) and uoft is top 20. Access your Waterloo AIF here. And it's not the end of the world if you don't get in; there are lots of pathways to enter the tech industry. I think a high second upper (4. u need diligence if u want to do cs grad school anyways. • 4 yr. People need to realise that CS in general is just more popular now and thus the averages are just gonna be higher. Being admitted to CS non-coop would be the same as being admitted to CS coop then dropping coop. The deadline for the AIF (and all other required documents) is February 17, 2023 at 11:59pm EST. 3% — this is a highly competitive program! U of Waterloo acceptance rates are known to be high, but CS UWaterloo is one of the highest! The minimum required grade point average to get into Waterloo Computer Science is the 90% range; however, most students applying to the program have above a 95% 2023 ccc senior: 51. I’m somewhat familiar with Python, so I don’t think there should be too many issues adjusting. You can do a part-time URA over a work term, just like any part-time job, so this should give you some flexibility. -My Mom works at McMaster, so I’d get 50% of tuition. I also didn’t realize how much math a CS degree in UWaterloo required. e. 9+ GPA only make $250k to 300k because they lack soft skills, to put it bluntly. ij lq fv mg mv im kw io tk we